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I don't know whether to laugh, or bang my head against the wall.

"Thanks largely to the feminist and gay and lesbian movements, few of us can now hold to rigid notions of gender. We have not only been challenged to stretch the boundaries of traditional gender roles, but many of us have discovered new, often unexpected possibilities. For example, many women report the delight of learning how to bring themselves to orgasm, thus shattering the myth of the frigid, nonorgasmic female dependent on the male for sexual climax..." Marvin Ellison

I mean, I know, and the whole 70's thing with circles and mirror and speculum... and the doctors who used to 'manipulate' 'hysterical' women to 'paroxysm' for relief... but are we really so hopeless that we couldn't figure out how to get ourselves off? Is it really a "new and unexpected possibility"?

But... how much fanfic does this remind you of: "patriarchal sex depends on a dynamic of conquest and surrender, of winning control over or of being placed under someone else's control. Opposites attract. Inequality is sexy.

Kakashi, Colonel Mustang.... I'm looking at you.

Date: 2007-02-28 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beachlass.livejournal.com
I think you'll like her stuff... here's the memory entry with the chapter links..

http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=rainjoyous&keyword=Fanfic+%5E%5E%3B&filter=all

And she writes them quite fluidly and just... mmmph. Really.

And yeah, I think one of the major factors in fanfic is the youth and inexperience of the authors. I think it's fascinating (and occasionally depressing) the way that things spread virally through the fan communities; and the cultural patterns that emerge.

Such as... True Love = Penetration

Or the Sakuras who get their first kiss and have orgasmic intercourse all within 5 minutes.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursday-kat.livejournal.com
*hugs for the linky* i'm totally adding it to the pile (but tonight i work on neji/kiba..eventually...)

i'm glad for the rec because i stopped reading a lot of roy/ed because it was just....too...hmmm...is saying that so much of it's infected with the fandom!sex virus rude? anyway, i trust you not to lead me astray!

ah youth and and inexperience...such a tricky thing...because it drives me a little crazy but, i really love them for the fact that they are trying. that they are doing something creative with their brains (even if it more scripted than anything, because most of them learn eventually)

but yeah, someone needs to make a list of 'tru!sex facts for fandom writers' ...except that that might take all the fun out of it :)

are you saying that true love =/= penetration!?!?!?!!? my world view...

dood, the first time a guy tried to french kiss me i was all like "why in the hell are you licking me?!?!" *dies* and he wanted to date me because i read romance novels and therefore must be knowledgeable....*snorts*

welcome to kitty's power hour of sharing good fun!

Date: 2007-02-28 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursday-kat.livejournal.com
and that sounds arrogant, the thing about young writers. it's not meant to be. i'm still totally inexperienced as a writer (despite my age) and i struggle too. i look back at my first fics and want to crawl in the hole of shame.

i think writing in general, whatever your age, is or should be a growth experience. even if it's only getting better at writing smut!

you know you love it! :)

Date: 2007-02-28 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beachlass.livejournal.com
I don't think it sounds arrogant, I think it's honest and descriptive, as well as kind of 'meeting them where they are at'.

Getting better at writing smut is an admirable goal.

Kiba and Neji are willing to help, I hope?

Date: 2007-02-28 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursday-kat.livejournal.com
oh they are, they so are....

i'm trying this amazing concept! it's called working on a fic for multiple days instead of writing and posting in one go. tonight may just be the night the current ficcie is finished!!

obstacles is being obstinant :P so the current ficcie it's just a 3000+ word smut fic but hey, it's fun :)

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